You suck at faking an online profile: Volume #3 (Model Mayhem moderator edition)

Well here we are on volume #3. Time flies but these reveals are always fun. I don’t go looking for them. They always just reveal themselves by acting stupid to draw attention to themselves. Volume #1 and volume #2 proved that to be the case. This edition is pretty straight forward but is noteworthy because it involves a senior moderator on Model Mayhem, a popular modeling networking site.

Well here we are on volume #3. Time flies but these reveals are always fun. I don’t go looking for them. They always just reveal themselves by acting stupid to draw attention to themselves. Volume #1 and volume #2 proved that to be the case. This edition is pretty straight forward but is noteworthy because it involves a senior moderator on Model Mayhem, a popular modeling networking site.

Here’s the setup, last night I saw this cryptic thread [cache] by a dog profile named Jake D. Trute that had been a member since June 2005. It was barely legible so I pretty much ignored it. Shortly after, it was followed by this thread complaining about bullies with no substance [cache]. Isis is a moderator and locked the thread citing no substance. Another thread [cache p1] [cache p2] was started with the same lack of substance. You can see the original opening post in my quote. It simply read “Redo. Your thoughts”. Of course, hilarity ensues and soon Isis locked the thread again only to have it mysterious be unlocked. Only moderators and site admins have permissions to unlock a thread. So the question at the time was who was unlocking the thread. Theda is a veteran member and a former mod and based on her post here, I now realize it was a hint. The clincher is Jack’s post here calling a member a talentless fuck. Not a big deal as Model Mayhem threads go. This will usually go unnoticed or result in a probation of a couple of days for that member. The problem is that this Jack is a fake puppet profile. It’s a dog and by that time, it was apparent to me it was a moderator account or an account getting help from a moderator. So the big question is, who is the moderator? The thread was finally locked again by Isis at 4:20 am, unlocked again, and finally locked again two minutes later. Model Mayhem does not log who unlocks threads so Isis had no idea who did it. All she knew was that her moderator decisions were being directly challenged by a dog profile controlled by an unknown person with moderator permissions.

Fast forward to the next morning and the shit hit the fan. Chris starts a thread [cache p1 p2 p3 p4 p5 p6 p7 p8] questioning what happened. By page 3, I had figured out that another member named Marksora was the real member behind Jack D. Trute, the dog profile that had taken a crap on another member. There are striking similarities between Marksora’s profile and Jack’s profile. They both use randomly paste watermarks, both use composites in photos, both profiles link to some kind of human rights site, and both are listed as in New York. Jack also made reference to Vietnam in his thread and there is a picture from Vietnam in Marksora’s portfolio. A search of threads reveal they often participate in the same threads with a similar style of typing. It often includes double spaces after commas and periods and questions are followed by a new line rather than continuing with the paragraph. So now it’s obvious those two profiles are controlled by the same person.

But the more serious question remains. Who unlocked the thread? Marksora does not have moderator permissions so he either got a moderator to unlock it at 4 am or he somehow had access to a moderator account. Now here is where it gets interesting. Looking through Marksora’s pictures, he used Mark Hana as his stylist for many shoots. Mark Hana is a senior moderator on Model Mayhem. He has been there since the early days of Model Mayhem in 2005.  Now look at the profile text for Mark Hana. Note the double spaces after commas and periods, note the misspelling of Manhattan as Manhatten in both profiles, note the credit section where Mark Hana list as “I have a Berdorf Goodman credit card”. Now note Marksora’s credit section where he list his credits as “I have a Bendels credit card, enough said.” There are numerous other similarities if you look at their forum post. Feel free to note any you see in the comment section.

  • OMG! I guessed right!! lol And I only guessed M.Hana because he’s a raging douche and I can’t stand him. I didn’t expect to be right about it. =D

  • OMG! I guessed right!! lol And I only guessed M.Hana because he’s a raging douche and I can’t stand him. I didn’t expect to be right about it. =D

  • Kally Watkins

    Yep. I guessed right too. I saw that Marksora was the fake dog profile, but then when I saw that someone left him a tag to hug hanachan, I figured that was his girlfriend or dog. Either way, I concluded that m.hana was a name he made up combining m (for Marksora) and hana (being his bitch – dog or girlfriend).

    Scooby Doo and the Gang does it once again!

    Rev up the van and let’s get onto our next mystery…

  • Kally Watkins

    Yep. I guessed right too. I saw that Marksora was the fake dog profile, but then when I saw that someone left him a tag to hug hanachan, I figured that was his girlfriend or dog. Either way, I concluded that m.hana was a name he made up combining m (for Marksora) and hana (being his bitch – dog or girlfriend).

    Scooby Doo and the Gang does it once again!

    Rev up the van and let’s get onto our next mystery…

  • Jessie

    Well shit son, I’ve known that M.Hana and Marksora were the same person for like, the last …. 1.5 years probably? Coulda come and asked me! lol. I didn’t know Jack D Trute was also Mark though.

  • Jessie

    Well shit son, I’ve known that M.Hana and Marksora were the same person for like, the last …. 1.5 years probably? Coulda come and asked me! lol. I didn’t know Jack D Trute was also Mark though.

  • The only mod on ModelMayhem, in my experience, who is a cool person and fair-minded individual is Dan Hood. All the ones I’ve come in contact with have been extremely biased hypocrites and anti-Christian assholes especially Ched, M.Hana, and Brian Diaz. It wouldn’t surprise me at all anything that the mods on ModelMayhem do. There has always been a different way they’ve done things there when it concerns their friends or if they just don’t like a member’s
    religious faith. ModelMayhem- fair and balanced, it is not.
    Ched and M.Hana (Creep1 and Creep2) are the two biggest losers on ModelMayhem and have been for years. They’re the assholes who got me thrown off of MM for no reason.

  • The only mod on ModelMayhem, in my experience, who is a cool person and fair-minded individual is Dan Hood. All the ones I’ve come in contact with have been extremely biased hypocrites and anti-Christian assholes especially Ched, M.Hana, and Brian Diaz. It wouldn’t surprise me at all anything that the mods on ModelMayhem do. There has always been a different way they’ve done things there when it concerns their friends or if they just don’t like a member’s
    religious faith. ModelMayhem- fair and balanced, it is not.
    Ched and M.Hana (Creep1 and Creep2) are the two biggest losers on ModelMayhem and have been for years. They’re the assholes who got me thrown off of MM for no reason.

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  • jop

    1 question regarding the credit cards listed are they supposed to be impressive because they arent. He needs to have a Black Amex in order to be impressive

  • jop

    1 question regarding the credit cards listed are they supposed to be impressive because they arent. He needs to have a Black Amex in order to be impressive

  • Butters

    The biggest douche by far on MM is not the photographer who tries to tell everyone they should shoot le artiste with natural light and a 20 dollar point and shoot, but rather that mod who cant stop telling everyone that his dad was a top official in Hong Kong. Oh and that he is an engineer IRL, not a photographer.

    Enough said about that…

  • Butters

    The biggest douche by far on MM is not the photographer who tries to tell everyone they should shoot le artiste with natural light and a 20 dollar point and shoot, but rather that mod who cant stop telling everyone that his dad was a top official in Hong Kong. Oh and that he is an engineer IRL, not a photographer.

    Enough said about that…

  • pandora

    Kudos to you for calling attention to the ridiculousness of the pervasive clique-ish mentality of Model Mayhem and its petty, elitist moderators.

    I am probably on the verge of losing my profile and I really couldn’t care less. The site is a joke. Here’s what happened to me:

    I started a thread asking for advice-I recently finished some traveling where 3 photographers canceled on me, putting me in the hole for the trip. I asked on the thread for traveling models to reply to put their 2 cents in about whether traveling is worth it (on the models thread, btw, NOT the photographers thread)

    Some photographer who’s in the area I just came from, posted on my thread, something along the lines of “well this is interesting. I don’t know you and didn’t hear from you. I’m just sayin’…”

    I found the post to be extremely odd. It was vague-what was his point? It had nothing whatsoever to do with what I was asking. I’m not sure if the guy was stupid, senile, or just trying to talk down to me.

    As people on the forums tend to do, I had people trying to impugn the meaning of his post and speaking for him, saying “well, he’s giving you good advice, he’s saying you didn’t do enough networking before you took your trip.”

    I was like, huh? He’s THAT important, that is HE hasn’t heard of me, he’s suggesting my network skills failed? Puh-leese. There could be any number of reasons why he hasn’t heard of me, and I found his post to be condescending and somewhat arrogant.

    Well, I guess this photographer has a little model clique around him because they jumped on me with the ferocity that can only be called puzzling, but is typical of the MM forums. I rec’d a couple of personal attacks from some models, mainly questioning my maturity and pointing out my age, etc…

    When I not only rebutted them, but pointed out that perhaps the fact that one of those models has 13,000 posts on the forum, she ought to spend more time working and less time dorking around on the site attacking people, I got attacked by moderator Phil H. He engaged in the same kind of personal attack these harpies lodged, parroting their comments about my “maturity” or lack thereof. He said something to the effect of “you got some good advice, now why don’t you act your age” bla bla bla.

    I can’t believe this, coming from a moderator–someone who’s supposed to be enforcing the rules against “no personal attacks” should not be himself engaging in personal attacks.

    After I found your blog, it made me wonder if perhaps Phil H is yet another monkier for that loser, Mark, whom you speak of.

  • pandora

    Kudos to you for calling attention to the ridiculousness of the pervasive clique-ish mentality of Model Mayhem and its petty, elitist moderators.

    I am probably on the verge of losing my profile and I really couldn’t care less. The site is a joke. Here’s what happened to me:

    I started a thread asking for advice-I recently finished some traveling where 3 photographers canceled on me, putting me in the hole for the trip. I asked on the thread for traveling models to reply to put their 2 cents in about whether traveling is worth it (on the models thread, btw, NOT the photographers thread)

    Some photographer who’s in the area I just came from, posted on my thread, something along the lines of “well this is interesting. I don’t know you and didn’t hear from you. I’m just sayin’…”

    I found the post to be extremely odd. It was vague-what was his point? It had nothing whatsoever to do with what I was asking. I’m not sure if the guy was stupid, senile, or just trying to talk down to me.

    As people on the forums tend to do, I had people trying to impugn the meaning of his post and speaking for him, saying “well, he’s giving you good advice, he’s saying you didn’t do enough networking before you took your trip.”

    I was like, huh? He’s THAT important, that is HE hasn’t heard of me, he’s suggesting my network skills failed? Puh-leese. There could be any number of reasons why he hasn’t heard of me, and I found his post to be condescending and somewhat arrogant.

    Well, I guess this photographer has a little model clique around him because they jumped on me with the ferocity that can only be called puzzling, but is typical of the MM forums. I rec’d a couple of personal attacks from some models, mainly questioning my maturity and pointing out my age, etc…

    When I not only rebutted them, but pointed out that perhaps the fact that one of those models has 13,000 posts on the forum, she ought to spend more time working and less time dorking around on the site attacking people, I got attacked by moderator Phil H. He engaged in the same kind of personal attack these harpies lodged, parroting their comments about my “maturity” or lack thereof. He said something to the effect of “you got some good advice, now why don’t you act your age” bla bla bla.

    I can’t believe this, coming from a moderator–someone who’s supposed to be enforcing the rules against “no personal attacks” should not be himself engaging in personal attacks.

    After I found your blog, it made me wonder if perhaps Phil H is yet another monkier for that loser, Mark, whom you speak of.

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