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	<title>Comments on: Random ramblings to newbie Model Mayhem models from someone who don’t know Jack</title>
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		<title>By: Lona Carr</title>
		<link>http://blog.patyuen.com/lessons/modeling/mmhelp01/comment-page-1/#comment-5240</link>
		<dc:creator>Lona Carr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the information that u shared was very insightful. I will succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the information that u shared was very insightful. I will succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Visitor</title>
		<link>http://blog.patyuen.com/lessons/modeling/mmhelp01/comment-page-1/#comment-5161</link>
		<dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please change the color of a background, very difficult to read.
Thank you for information though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please change the color of a background, very difficult to read.<br />
Thank you for information though.</p>
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		<title>By: patyuen</title>
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		<dc:creator>patyuen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ julia: I don&#039;t know what State you are posting from but the practice you describe of requiring models to test with your photographer (if you have financial interest in them) is illegal in some States like California. Most legitimate modeling agencies do exercise control by screening photographers and presenting those selected for the models to choose from. The financial transaction is between the model and the photographer with agency taking no part in that arrangement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ julia: I don&#8217;t know what State you are posting from but the practice you describe of requiring models to test with your photographer (if you have financial interest in them) is illegal in some States like California. Most legitimate modeling agencies do exercise control by screening photographers and presenting those selected for the models to choose from. The financial transaction is between the model and the photographer with agency taking no part in that arrangement.</p>
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		<title>By: julia</title>
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		<dc:creator>julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 04:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for a well-known modeling agency and this info is awesome. We do not take anyone under 5&#039;8 for girls and 6&#039;0 for guys. It is just not worth the time for the agency. They do not book high fashion jobs and that is really all we want when it comes down to it. The only part I disagree with is the part about testing, our agency does have you test with our contracted photographers to keep the tests consistent and to keep the creative control in our hands. We do not charge very much though and our main photographer charges 75% more than we do to book with him. And just so you know the perfect girls are usually 5`11 32-24-34.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for a well-known modeling agency and this info is awesome. We do not take anyone under 5&#8242;8 for girls and 6&#8242;0 for guys. It is just not worth the time for the agency. They do not book high fashion jobs and that is really all we want when it comes down to it. The only part I disagree with is the part about testing, our agency does have you test with our contracted photographers to keep the tests consistent and to keep the creative control in our hands. We do not charge very much though and our main photographer charges 75% more than we do to book with him. And just so you know the perfect girls are usually 5`11 32-24-34.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaHuynh</title>
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		<dc:creator>LindaHuynh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 06:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha awesome blog here you&#039;ve got. I love it, its funny and so helpful :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha awesome blog here you&#8217;ve got. I love it, its funny and so helpful <img src='http://blog.patyuen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DeLarone</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeLarone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 02:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really does cover all the bases!!!
Pretty good stuff!

I would like to add that it seems that ModelMayhem has created a culture of its own. So many young girls that are in their prime can get a profile with a few self-shots, find some pedestrian horny photographer to shoot them. Maybe they use a few basic lighting techniques and get a few decent shots. PRESTO!! All the sudden they are &quot;MODELS&quot; and they know everything...lol
Same thing can apply for 
young, buff, fit dudes and vast 
collective of gay
(not there is anything wrong with that)
 photographers.

Are they &quot;models&quot;...technically yes!
Will anything ever become of it....probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really does cover all the bases!!!<br />
Pretty good stuff!</p>
<p>I would like to add that it seems that ModelMayhem has created a culture of its own. So many young girls that are in their prime can get a profile with a few self-shots, find some pedestrian horny photographer to shoot them. Maybe they use a few basic lighting techniques and get a few decent shots. PRESTO!! All the sudden they are &#8220;MODELS&#8221; and they know everything&#8230;lol<br />
Same thing can apply for<br />
young, buff, fit dudes and vast<br />
collective of gay<br />
(not there is anything wrong with that)<br />
 photographers.</p>
<p>Are they &#8220;models&#8221;&#8230;technically yes!<br />
Will anything ever become of it&#8230;.probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
		<link>http://blog.patyuen.com/lessons/modeling/mmhelp01/comment-page-1/#comment-3869</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 00:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was very awesome to read!!! I also really like the comment on Ms.Jenny...lol. :) Peace,Love, and....maybe not sooo much Chicken Grease.lol. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was very awesome to read!!! I also really like the comment on Ms.Jenny&#8230;lol. <img src='http://blog.patyuen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Peace,Love, and&#8230;.maybe not sooo much Chicken Grease.lol. <img src='http://blog.patyuen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: KaylleeS</title>
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		<dc:creator>KaylleeS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 21:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are not 5&#039;9 &quot;you&#039;re just not that hot&quot;? What a crock of shit. There are many models on mayhem who are 5&#039;4-5&#039;8 that get paying jobs and I have seen, although rare, people who are represented when they do not fit the height requirement. Mayhem isn&#039;t all about the &quot;fashion model&quot; it is about modelling in general and there is many different genres. Since when does being 5&#039;9 or taller make you hot...you can be extremely unattractive and be tall and thin. What about a beautiful face or a perfectly fit body? I do agree that you will not be flown all over the world and the advise about pictures and measurements etc. is accurate but I think that modelling can have a wider scope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are not 5&#8242;9 &#8220;you&#8217;re just not that hot&#8221;? What a crock of shit. There are many models on mayhem who are 5&#8242;4-5&#8242;8 that get paying jobs and I have seen, although rare, people who are represented when they do not fit the height requirement. Mayhem isn&#8217;t all about the &#8220;fashion model&#8221; it is about modelling in general and there is many different genres. Since when does being 5&#8242;9 or taller make you hot&#8230;you can be extremely unattractive and be tall and thin. What about a beautiful face or a perfectly fit body? I do agree that you will not be flown all over the world and the advise about pictures and measurements etc. is accurate but I think that modelling can have a wider scope.</p>
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		<title>By: LUFFA</title>
		<link>http://blog.patyuen.com/lessons/modeling/mmhelp01/comment-page-1/#comment-3792</link>
		<dc:creator>LUFFA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 18:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread was extremely helpful,honest and to the POINT. I am a MM model; I have made some of the mistakes mentioned above and I will certainly adhere to the advice given. CHANGE is good and knowledge is POWER!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread was extremely helpful,honest and to the POINT. I am a MM model; I have made some of the mistakes mentioned above and I will certainly adhere to the advice given. CHANGE is good and knowledge is POWER!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tamia</title>
		<link>http://blog.patyuen.com/lessons/modeling/mmhelp01/comment-page-1/#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator>Tamia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annarandom - go back to annarandomland.

Melissa - that &quot;slutty&quot; girl is also somebody&#039;s daughter - likely who had the misfortune of a terrible makeup artist and a sleazy photographer.  Don&#039;t rag on the girl just because she&#039;s on the card...there&#039;s every likelihood that she&#039;s not affiliated with the photographer at all and just got scammed herself because she didn&#039;t have a careful parent like yourself.

I&#039;ve scouted models all over the place.  Without being there, it&#039;s difficult to be certain either way.  I always tell girls though, that a parent or friend is welcome to attend, as long as they mind their manners and don&#039;t disrupt the creative flow.  i.e. No hockey moms who talk so large I have half a mind to hand them my camera just to prove why I&#039;m the photographer, please and thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annarandom &#8211; go back to annarandomland.</p>
<p>Melissa &#8211; that &#8220;slutty&#8221; girl is also somebody&#8217;s daughter &#8211; likely who had the misfortune of a terrible makeup artist and a sleazy photographer.  Don&#8217;t rag on the girl just because she&#8217;s on the card&#8230;there&#8217;s every likelihood that she&#8217;s not affiliated with the photographer at all and just got scammed herself because she didn&#8217;t have a careful parent like yourself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve scouted models all over the place.  Without being there, it&#8217;s difficult to be certain either way.  I always tell girls though, that a parent or friend is welcome to attend, as long as they mind their manners and don&#8217;t disrupt the creative flow.  i.e. No hockey moms who talk so large I have half a mind to hand them my camera just to prove why I&#8217;m the photographer, please and thanks.</p>
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